Comments on: MacBook Pros: Are they Really 'Pro' Notebooks? http://notebooks.com/2008/10/14/macbook-pros-are-they-really-pro-notebooks/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=macbook-pros-are-they-really-pro-notebooks Notebooks and Laptops News, Deals and Reviews Tue, 07 Feb 2012 20:31:11 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Valium http://notebooks.com/2008/10/14/macbook-pros-are-they-really-pro-notebooks/#comment-5108 Valium Sat, 10 Oct 2009 04:09:09 +0000 http://www.notebooks.com/?p=2652#comment-5108 sigh earning violated narcotic browsers bureaucrats corp computed full laid match prediction sigh earning violated narcotic browsers bureaucrats corp computed full laid match prediction

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]]> By: rodolfo http://notebooks.com/2008/10/14/macbook-pros-are-they-really-pro-notebooks/#comment-5107 rodolfo Wed, 22 Apr 2009 21:27:19 +0000 http://www.notebooks.com/?p=2652#comment-5107 100% agree.... i am a software engineer and happy (old)MBP user. Its a pity they merged the consumer and pro lines. It couldnt have been that bad if they turned the consumer line into PRO, but finally they turned the PRO into a MacBook "plus", for consumers that need that extra bit of power. But they forgot about us all... and the product has irritating design flaws. They are irritating because at design time it's a piece of cake to solve. Looks like the departament that designed the unibody was more a non technical, artistic departament that a technical departament. And let me say it's even worse they are doing the same with the OS! I remember blaming Microsoft some years ago for 'brute-force' installing crapware like Windows Media, Internet Explorer, etc etc without an option to disable. Same is happening now with the fatty Leopard, ITunes/Iphone/IPOD, IPhoto, etc etc, let alone QuickTime, FrontRow, etc etc. But Microsoft learned from that mistakes and is taking the minimalistic road, while surprisingly the "Apple minimalism" is turning into maximalism. I am still using Tiger 10.4.11. I have it so polished that it roughly weights 900Mb (and it's enough IMHO) and takes like 5 seconds to boot. I was horrified with Leopard boot time and memory consumption in comparison with that. The standard Leopard installation is like 6-7Gb (of course you can polish afterwards) and in my opinion doesnt' bring much interesting stuff (come on, dont tell me Time Machine is a revolution! I have wireless backup programs on PC since donkeys' years). But Leopard is a Marketing miracle "more than 300 new features" !wow! , so well considered, and it's not that different to Vista, that is demonized. I'm anxiously waiting for Snow Leopard, that by the way, it's what Leopard should have been. Much like Windows 7, it's what Vista should have been. I hope Steve Jobs has a surprise for us all and will bring the ultimate pro machine soon. With the "old" mbp and tiger they were just a little step from perfection. Come on! 100% agree…. i am a software engineer and happy (old)MBP user. Its a pity they merged the consumer and pro lines. It couldnt have been that bad if they turned the consumer line into PRO, but finally they turned the PRO into a MacBook “plus”, for consumers that need that extra bit of power. But they forgot about us all… and the product has irritating design flaws. They are irritating because at design time it’s a piece of cake to solve. Looks like the departament that designed the unibody was more a non technical, artistic departament that a technical departament.

And let me say it’s even worse they are doing the same with the OS! I remember blaming Microsoft some years ago for ‘brute-force’ installing crapware like Windows Media, Internet Explorer, etc etc without an option to disable. Same is happening now with the fatty Leopard, ITunes/Iphone/IPOD, IPhoto, etc etc, let alone QuickTime, FrontRow, etc etc. But Microsoft learned from that mistakes and is taking the minimalistic road, while surprisingly the “Apple minimalism” is turning into maximalism.

I am still using Tiger 10.4.11. I have it so polished that it roughly weights 900Mb (and it’s enough IMHO) and takes like 5 seconds to boot. I was horrified with Leopard boot time and memory consumption in comparison with that. The standard Leopard installation is like 6-7Gb (of course you can polish afterwards) and in my opinion doesnt’ bring much interesting stuff (come on, dont tell me Time Machine is a revolution! I have wireless backup programs on PC since donkeys’ years). But Leopard is a Marketing miracle “more than 300 new features” !wow! , so well considered, and it’s not that different to Vista, that is demonized. I’m anxiously waiting for Snow Leopard, that by the way, it’s what Leopard should have been. Much like Windows 7, it’s what Vista should have been.

I hope Steve Jobs has a surprise for us all and will bring the ultimate pro machine soon. With the “old” mbp and tiger they were just a little step from perfection. Come on!

]]> By: rodolfo http://notebooks.com/2008/10/14/macbook-pros-are-they-really-pro-notebooks/#comment-5118 rodolfo Wed, 22 Apr 2009 21:27:00 +0000 http://www.notebooks.com/?p=2652#comment-5118 100% agree.... i am a software engineer and happy (old)MBP user. Its a pity they merged the consumer and pro lines. It couldnt have been that bad if they turned the consumer line into PRO, but finally they turned the PRO into a MacBook "plus", for consumers that need that extra bit of power. But they forgot about us all... and the product has irritating design flaws. They are irritating because at design time it's a piece of cake to solve. Looks like the departament that designed the unibody was more a non technical, artistic departament that a technical departament. And let me say it's even worse they are doing the same with the OS! I remember blaming Microsoft some years ago for 'brute-force' installing crapware like Windows Media, Internet Explorer, etc etc without an option to disable. Same is happening now with the fatty Leopard, ITunes/Iphone/IPOD, IPhoto, etc etc, let alone QuickTime, FrontRow, etc etc. But Microsoft learned from that mistakes and is taking the minimalistic road, while surprisingly the "Apple minimalism" is turning into maximalism. I am still using Tiger 10.4.11. I have it so polished that it roughly weights 900Mb (and it's enough IMHO) and takes like 5 seconds to boot. I was horrified with Leopard boot time and memory consumption in comparison with that. The standard Leopard installation is like 6-7Gb (of course you can polish afterwards) and in my opinion doesnt' bring much interesting stuff (come on, dont tell me Time Machine is a revolution! I have wireless backup programs on PC since donkeys' years). But Leopard is a Marketing miracle "more than 300 new features" !wow! , so well considered, and it's not that different to Vista, that is demonized. I'm anxiously waiting for Snow Leopard, that by the way, it's what Leopard should have been. Much like Windows 7, it's what Vista should have been. I hope Steve Jobs has a surprise for us all and will bring the ultimate pro machine soon. With the "old" mbp and tiger they were just a little step from perfection. Come on! 100% agree…. i am a software engineer and happy (old)MBP user. Its a pity they merged the consumer and pro lines. It couldnt have been that bad if they turned the consumer line into PRO, but finally they turned the PRO into a MacBook “plus”, for consumers that need that extra bit of power. But they forgot about us all… and the product has irritating design flaws. They are irritating because at design time it’s a piece of cake to solve. Looks like the departament that designed the unibody was more a non technical, artistic departament that a technical departament.

And let me say it’s even worse they are doing the same with the OS! I remember blaming Microsoft some years ago for ‘brute-force’ installing crapware like Windows Media, Internet Explorer, etc etc without an option to disable. Same is happening now with the fatty Leopard, ITunes/Iphone/IPOD, IPhoto, etc etc, let alone QuickTime, FrontRow, etc etc. But Microsoft learned from that mistakes and is taking the minimalistic road, while surprisingly the “Apple minimalism” is turning into maximalism.

I am still using Tiger 10.4.11. I have it so polished that it roughly weights 900Mb (and it’s enough IMHO) and takes like 5 seconds to boot. I was horrified with Leopard boot time and memory consumption in comparison with that. The standard Leopard installation is like 6-7Gb (of course you can polish afterwards) and in my opinion doesnt’ bring much interesting stuff (come on, dont tell me Time Machine is a revolution! I have wireless backup programs on PC since donkeys’ years). But Leopard is a Marketing miracle “more than 300 new features” !wow! , so well considered, and it’s not that different to Vista, that is demonized. I’m anxiously waiting for Snow Leopard, that by the way, it’s what Leopard should have been. Much like Windows 7, it’s what Vista should have been.

I hope Steve Jobs has a surprise for us all and will bring the ultimate pro machine soon. With the “old” mbp and tiger they were just a little step from perfection. Come on!

]]> By: Patrick http://notebooks.com/2008/10/14/macbook-pros-are-they-really-pro-notebooks/#comment-5099 Patrick Wed, 19 Nov 2008 14:09:31 +0000 http://www.notebooks.com/?p=2652#comment-5099 I work on wall street at a top IB firm, and lets just say you are 100% correct. Don, you're an idiot. You cannot dictate what the business world wants, matte-screens, spill resistant keyboards, as well as up-to-date connectivity is a must. Me and my colleagues always laugh when we see a Mac trying to gear itself towards business professionals. Those computers are for kids and teenagers, nothing more. I work on wall street at a top IB firm, and lets just say you are 100% correct. Don, you’re an idiot. You cannot dictate what the business world wants, matte-screens, spill resistant keyboards, as well as up-to-date connectivity is a must. Me and my colleagues always laugh when we see a Mac trying to gear itself towards business professionals. Those computers are for kids and teenagers, nothing more.

]]> By: Patrick http://notebooks.com/2008/10/14/macbook-pros-are-they-really-pro-notebooks/#comment-5110 Patrick Wed, 19 Nov 2008 14:09:00 +0000 http://www.notebooks.com/?p=2652#comment-5110 I work on wall street at a top IB firm, and lets just say you are 100% correct. Don, you're an idiot. You cannot dictate what the business world wants, matte-screens, spill resistant keyboards, as well as up-to-date connectivity is a must. Me and my colleagues always laugh when we see a Mac trying to gear itself towards business professionals. Those computers are for kids and teenagers, nothing more. I work on wall street at a top IB firm, and lets just say you are 100% correct. Don, you’re an idiot. You cannot dictate what the business world wants, matte-screens, spill resistant keyboards, as well as up-to-date connectivity is a must. Me and my colleagues always laugh when we see a Mac trying to gear itself towards business professionals. Those computers are for kids and teenagers, nothing more.

]]> By: rob http://notebooks.com/2008/10/14/macbook-pros-are-they-really-pro-notebooks/#comment-5100 rob Thu, 30 Oct 2008 21:29:37 +0000 http://www.notebooks.com/?p=2652#comment-5100 do agree, it's inflexible,... my ranking 1. availability, corporate buys through corporate channels, aka dell, hp, if it's not available there, no go, no PO ... 2. screen, matt option, and higher resolution, met one with a 17" pro, and he'd said he envy the 15" with high rez screens, since his is so bulky, but he needs more than the 1440x900,... and a long list,... a big one,.... no firewire port on the macbook,... do agree, it’s inflexible,…

my ranking

1. availability, corporate buys through corporate channels, aka dell, hp, if it’s not available there, no go, no PO …

2. screen, matt option, and higher resolution,
met one with a 17″ pro, and he’d said he envy the 15″ with high rez screens, since his is so bulky, but he needs more than the 1440×900,…

and a long list,…

a big one,…. no firewire port on the macbook,…

]]> By: rob http://notebooks.com/2008/10/14/macbook-pros-are-they-really-pro-notebooks/#comment-5111 rob Thu, 30 Oct 2008 21:29:00 +0000 http://www.notebooks.com/?p=2652#comment-5111 do agree, it's inflexible,... my ranking 1. availability, corporate buys through corporate channels, aka dell, hp, if it's not available there, no go, no PO ... 2. screen, matt option, and higher resolution, met one with a 17" pro, and he'd said he envy the 15" with high rez screens, since his is so bulky, but he needs more than the 1440x900,... and a long list,... a big one,.... no firewire port on the macbook,... do agree, it’s inflexible,…

my ranking

1. availability, corporate buys through corporate channels, aka dell, hp, if it’s not available there, no go, no PO …

2. screen, matt option, and higher resolution,
met one with a 17″ pro, and he’d said he envy the 15″ with high rez screens, since his is so bulky, but he needs more than the 1440×900,…

and a long list,…

a big one,…. no firewire port on the macbook,…

]]> By: TravGT http://notebooks.com/2008/10/14/macbook-pros-are-they-really-pro-notebooks/#comment-5101 TravGT Thu, 16 Oct 2008 16:35:14 +0000 http://www.notebooks.com/?p=2652#comment-5101 don: you offer a very limited point of view....as a professional at a fortune 100 company and a mobile user - many of these features are very important to me. only one example: i use a docking station both at home and in my 2 offices. standard display ports are a REQUIREMENT as i plug up to present in many different venues. extended batteries, spill proof keyboards etc are a MUST when transitioning from site to site. don:

you offer a very limited point of view….as a professional at a fortune 100 company and a mobile user – many of these features are very important to me. only one example: i use a docking station both at home and in my 2 offices. standard display ports are a REQUIREMENT as i plug up to present in many different venues. extended batteries, spill proof keyboards etc are a MUST when transitioning from site to site.

]]> By: TravGT http://notebooks.com/2008/10/14/macbook-pros-are-they-really-pro-notebooks/#comment-5112 TravGT Thu, 16 Oct 2008 16:35:00 +0000 http://www.notebooks.com/?p=2652#comment-5112 don: you offer a very limited point of view....as a professional at a fortune 100 company and a mobile user - many of these features are very important to me. only one example: i use a docking station both at home and in my 2 offices. standard display ports are a REQUIREMENT as i plug up to present in many different venues. extended batteries, spill proof keyboards etc are a MUST when transitioning from site to site. don:

you offer a very limited point of view….as a professional at a fortune 100 company and a mobile user – many of these features are very important to me. only one example: i use a docking station both at home and in my 2 offices. standard display ports are a REQUIREMENT as i plug up to present in many different venues. extended batteries, spill proof keyboards etc are a MUST when transitioning from site to site.

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