AMD vs. Intel Integrated Graphics Demo (video)
Pat Moorhead, AMD’s vice president of advanced marketing, demonstrates the difference between Intel and ATI integrated graphics. The differences between the two notebooks are very noticeable and anyone trying to decide between an Intel and AMD system should take a look at the following video.
Pat attached two HP Pavilion dv5 notebooks, one with AMD technology (Puma) and one with Intel technology (Montevina), to a pair of HDTVs. He then played a Blu-ray disc and Iron Man on each system. Both were configured with integrated graphics, just like the majority of notebooks sold at retail stores like Best Buy. The AMD notebook had ATI Radeon HD 3200 graphics, while the Intel notebook had an Intel Graphics Media Accelerator X4500.
While the AMD notebook played the Blu-ray disc smoothly, the Intel machine stuttered repeatedly, killing the HD experience completely.
Pat then ran Iron Man, a video game with 3D graphics. Again, the AMD-based HP Pavilion dv5 played the intro to the game flawlessly. On the other hand, playback on the Intel-based notebook was unwatchable, with huge chunks of the scene missing in action.
In no way does this demonstration determine which platform is superior overall, as Intel-based notebooks have been shown to have superior battery efficiency and are faster in some departments, but take it into consideration if video gaming or high-def playback over a large external display is a priority for you. This is especially important if you’re considering a notebook with a Blu-ray disc player.
Ideally you’d want a notebook with a dedicated graphics solution if gaming or HD video really matters to you, but budgets are budgets.
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“In no way does this demonstration determine which platform is superior overall,” – so why you compare this systems, for me AMD wins, because have better support for future applications that will use some advenced graphic features, for example there is no way to start Vista Aero Theme on Intel i915 graphic chip, there is no such problem even on older amd platforms… so my choice is AMD
“In no way does this demonstration determine which platform is superior overall,” – so why you compare this systems, for me AMD wins, because have better support for future applications that will use some advenced graphic features, for example there is no way to start Vista Aero Theme on Intel i915 graphic chip, there is no such problem even on older amd platforms… so my choice is AMD
So what he doesn’t mention is that no serious gamer would want a laptop with integrated graphics. All the best gaming laptops out right now from Gateway, Alienware, Sager, etc. use Centrino 2 processors with non-integrated Nvidia 9800M series graphics cards. Ignore that marketing nonsense; don’t buy a Turion or anything with an integrated video card if you want the best performance. Can a Turion with a top of the line ATI mobile graphics card compete with a Centrino 2 with a top of the line Nvidia card? No way, not even close.
So what he doesn’t mention is that no serious gamer would want a laptop with integrated graphics. All the best gaming laptops out right now from Gateway, Alienware, Sager, etc. use Centrino 2 processors with non-integrated Nvidia 9800M series graphics cards. Ignore that marketing nonsense; don’t buy a Turion or anything with an integrated video card if you want the best performance. Can a Turion with a top of the line ATI mobile graphics card compete with a Centrino 2 with a top of the line Nvidia card? No way, not even close.
shawn not all gamers want nvidia 9800m chips what ever happened to the 38** line they are just as good if not better in some cases not to bring up price but performance mobility radeon 3870=9800gt/gts
but price is like 250 vs 500 so dont think that nvidia is the one company out there for performance
shawn not all gamers want nvidia 9800m chips what ever happened to the 38** line they are just as good if not better in some cases not to bring up price but performance mobility radeon 3870=9800gt/gts
but price is like 250 vs 500 so dont think that nvidia is the one company out there for performance
All AMD marketing crap. Sure the intel integrated sucks but why the hell did he not talk about the hd4500 that thing can actually play crysis, albeit on lowest. Intel GMA’S are getting better every year and soon they’ll actually be worth it. And btw intel and nvidia owns AMD and ati even nvidia and ARM owns crossfirex and AMD. Thats how crappy AMShit is.
All AMD marketing crap. Sure the intel integrated sucks but why the hell did he not talk about the hd4500 that thing can actually play crysis, albeit on lowest. Intel GMA’S are getting better every year and soon they’ll actually be worth it. And btw intel and nvidia owns AMD and ati even nvidia and ARM owns crossfirex and AMD. Thats how crappy AMShit is.
the crap intel gma is suck at all but the worst thing is 90% notebooks stick around with this junk so let me tell you: The crap is still the winner since from 100% notebook buyers only 20% are gamers no wonder how good ati integrated solution
the crap intel gma is suck at all but the worst thing is 90% notebooks stick around with this junk so let me tell you: The crap is still the winner since from 100% notebook buyers only 20% are gamers no wonder how good ati integrated solution
Intel Graphic always sucked. Even GMA HD isn't good enough. “Its just one more way that intel technology help deliver a great computing experience” Yes intel, your CPUs are the best, but wouldn't they think that a powerful CPU and a crappy graphic card just makes it pointless? ATI and nVidia graphic rock. You know a game released 1 decade ago? Midtown Madness 2 (Even low system requirements that time) on a 2007 PC with Intel GMA 950, it lags a little bit, yes a bit of flicker when rotating a stock per installed vehicle. This is a on 2GHz Intel Core 2 Duo processor (T7200) While my friend has another laptop with a lower mid range ATI radeon mobility X1400 and a slower Intel Core Duo 1.66Ghz (T2300E) can run crysis on medium settings at 20>. A 2005 budget (Cheapest) ATI card performs up to 4 times faster. nVidia ION platform is also amazing! Intel suffers all laptop users with GMA 950. Its just like intel is a murder. When I encode HD videos on GMA 950 on 720p, sometimes in the encoding process it lags for god sake. Ended up with a laggy presentation and I was the only one in the class with this issue.
Hm… this is Bull… the AMD Turion processor i am currently using while writing this is idling at 97 degrees Celsius (100 is water boiling point, for Americans). To take things into consideration, this isn’t that much worse then the original 83 degrees it idled on after i bought it.
Supposedly, I read on a forum 5 minutes ago that Turion’s I are crap and overheat and that basically other AMD processors are better, for example Turious II’s.
Since I remember reading about headaches deskop computers have unless proper cooling is implemented, I am inclined to believe otherwise.
This is a ASUS AB50 laptop, with AMD and ATI HD 4370 graphics card. While the gaming experience is really great (the graphics card), this ***** comparing their solutions to intel’s GMA’s is just ridiculous.
There is no excuse for me having to bring this stupid laptop in for the second time in a one year warranty back into service center. Funny thing is they replaced the motherboard the first time around (and i just bought the laptop, maybe 2 months), but I suspected that the CPU had something to do with it because the laptop kept hanging like the CPU was overheating.
It did work fine, more or less, as I mentioned the gaming experience was great, but after 8 more months I am again forced to call on my warranty.
Now let’s compare this to my experience with a HP budget laptop – HP 550. A intel dual core cpu, much less power in it then my current CPU, and intel’s GMA graphics card. It coudn’t run many games properly, and probably stil woudn’t, but the ones that did, worked fine after I replaced the ugly hp graphics card drivers (outdated from 2007) with intel’s then latest drivers in 2009. The games started to run at least 100% better, to the point that where a lot of those games were more then playable at low settings.
Now that I wrote this last sentence, I have to add something about the great gaming experience on AMD-ATI machine. I have to run my mmo twich game on low settings because the cpu can’t handle it. I guess that isn’t much of an improvement from the HP laptop.
Except, the hp laptop idles at 50, and I can’t force the CPU and GPU over 75 no matter how hard a try. Compare it with this ticking timebomb I have right now that’s running at 83 and 75 respectably. Funny thing is, it would not move a Celsius degree from those values up until recently I suppose. Finally, this AMD cpu is showing sings of change idling at 97 and going into 100 or 101 on high workload.
Right now, the games hang after a while. I guess the CPU overheats much more now then 100 or 101, or the safety switch (that hangs the game) would not turn on.
Basicaly, to sum it up, I would always buy a more expensive, maybe even less powerfull Intel + Nvidia laptop then any of AMD’s hyped up suicide processors. And as people point out in the coments already, this is marketing hype.
I have one more thing to add to here though. This is the first time in my life that I see this particular “dropping” of polygons because of “bandwidth” problems. I am not an expert in 3D graphics, but as a programmer I know enough about how games are programed to know that the game would show absolutely the same, except that it would have a lower FPS (frames per second) rate. Basicaly, the game would NOT run at 30 frames a second, it would run at say 20 and it would or would not play slower, depending on the game implementation. Most serious games either use frame skipping (they run the simulation on the CPU for two ticks yet draw only one) or some other method to get over this problem. Flash games for example, mostly don’t and you can get a slower game with a less powerful or stressed out CPU (a ton of tabs in a browser).
Basically, my opinion is that this prick here is using a game bug or something similar to show of that his products are supposedly superior.
OK, i was just watching the “missing” polygons a little bit better and it looks to me like some kind of a bug in the 3d engine regarding the 3d fog that’s supposed to fall over those polygons because they are too far away (that’s what the game seems to think). It’s obviously a bug, because it’s selective (polygons of similar distance to camera are randomly chosen to be drawn correctly or not) and repeating, it would not choose the same polygon’s to skip over and over again in some fictitious “bandwidth” problem. Also, it’s NOT skipping or doing any acrobatics with those polygons, it’s just texturing them incorrectly because of a bug in the game’s rendering code.
This guy is a smiling, thumb showing prick.